Video interview on book The Sayings of the Desert Fathers as guest of Don Veinot and Ron Henzel with  Midwest Christian Outreach on The Unknown Webcast. There is also a bit of discussion on John Climacus who wrote The Ladder of Divine Ascent.

Short link to video: https://tinyurl.com/3ww4rk3b

Part 2, The Divine Ladder, You Could Fall Off

Short link to Part 2: https://tinyurl.com/4bz6f2jz